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Personally (and as a homer) I think Lynch should have been selected before Law. . . I understand Law won 2 more SuperBowls (and that carries weight) but Lynch had more 1st team All Pro selections and more ProBowls. Perhaps a little Patriot love/lore helped along the way.

Super Bowl champion (XXXVII)

9× Pro Bowl (1997, 1999–2002, 2004–2007)

3× First-team All-Pro (1999–2001)

And before one of you monkeys start talking about TV markets (many people seem to think Tampa Bay is a small market)
Boston is #9 DMA
Tampa Bay is #11 DMA
(out of 210 markets nationwide)

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1 hour ago, Bucaroo Bonzai said:

Pro Bowl selections can be pretty political.   How many years would you have said that John Lynch was the best safety in the league?  Or even what year?  How many opposing team's fans/players would have said that?

Works both ways my friend. . IF Law was sooo damn good why fewer PB selections?? Fewer 1st Team AP selections.

JMO

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Re: Barber and Law....if one is to put any credence in these types of comps, Law's career is comped to no HOFers. Barbers to multiple HOFers such as Mel Blount, Jimmy Johnson, Willie Brown, Brian Dawkins and a few others.

Whether Barber belongs in the HOF is debatable. Whether Law belongs in the HOF isn't. He doesn't. The fact that Atwater isn't in and Law is is a complete joke.

Barber in addition to the Pick/Sacks stats we see, also has the 4th most non offensive TDs in the history of the game.

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On 2/4/2019 at 2:23 PM, Gulf Shore Steve said:

Last 24 hours talk of Julian Edelman for the HOF. Come on dudes and dudettes. Has anyone thought the answer to the question "who's amongst the top 5 receivers in the game?" at any one point has thought Julian Edelman would answer that question. Never on a Pro Bowl roster or All Pro selection.

Apparently he just past Michael Irvin for second most postseason yardage in league history.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/super-bowl-53-julian-edelman-passes-michael-irvin-on-all-time-postseason-receiving-yards-list-now-no-2/1nug9uylsmhol1vb95r3vk6je6

That’s pretty damned impressive.

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2 hours ago, tfree32 said:

Apparently he just past Michael Irvin for second most postseason yardage in league history.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/super-bowl-53-julian-edelman-passes-michael-irvin-on-all-time-postseason-receiving-yards-list-now-no-2/1nug9uylsmhol1vb95r3vk6je6

That’s pretty damned impressive.

It is impressive. It's also one of opportunity which by itself shouldn't get him into the HOF.

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35 minutes ago, Gulf Shore Steve said:

It is impressive. It's also one of opportunity which by itself shouldn't get him into the HOF.

No doubt he’s had ample opportunities he’s taken advantage of. But hasn’t every great player? How good would Jerry Rice have been if he was stuck playing for the Bucs his while career? It seems self-evident that his stats are a lot better due to playing with Montana/Young than they would have been playing with the likes of Johnson/King/Freeman/etc.

Greatness is a combination of talent, hard work, and being in the right place at the right time.

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On 2/3/2019 at 12:47 PM, Gulf Shore Steve said:

Re: Barber and Law....if one is to put any credence in these types of comps, Law's career is comped to no HOFers. Barbers to multiple HOFers such as Mel Blount, Jimmy Johnson, Willie Brown, Brian Dawkins and a few others.

Whether Barber belongs in the HOF is debatable. Whether Law belongs in the HOF isn't. He doesn't. The fact that Atwater isn't in and Law is is a complete joke.

Barber in addition to the Pick/Sacks stats we see, also has the 4th most non offensive TDs in the history of the game.

Agreed on Law. Had he played the bulk of his career for someone other than New England, he's not even in the discussion.

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11 hours ago, tfree32 said:

No doubt he’s had ample opportunities he’s taken advantage of. But hasn’t every great player? How good would Jerry Rice have been if he was stuck playing for the Bucs his while career? It seems self-evident that his stats are a lot better due to playing with Montana/Young than they would have been playing with the likes of Johnson/King/Freeman/etc.

Greatness is a combination of talent, hard work, and being in the right place at the right time.

Anyone can talk him into being HOFer if they wish I guess but, as I mentioned earlier, does anyone list him as one of the best receivers in the game at any point in his career. If one does then please stop offering opinions on the game because you'd be showing as a tad uninformed.

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9 hours ago, Gulf Shore Steve said:

Anyone can talk him into being HOFer if they wish I guess but, as I mentioned earlier, does anyone list him as one of the best receivers in the game at any point in his career. If one does then please stop offering opinions on the game because you'd be showing as a tad uninformed.

There are some pretty ‘talented’ receivers that haven’t done a damn thing that mattered. How do you weigh talent against performance? How about against performance under the lights, when the games matter most?

Josh Gordon is a thousand times more talented than Julian Edelman. Who performed better for the Patriots this season? Who would you rather have on your team’s roster? When the games matter, who do you trust to stay eligible, keep his head in the game, and make big plays?

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3 hours ago, tfree32 said:

There are some pretty ‘talented’ receivers that haven’t done a damn thing that mattered. How do you weigh talent against performance? How about against performance under the lights, when the games matter most?

Josh Gordon is a thousand times more talented than Julian Edelman. Who performed better for the Patriots this season? Who would you rather have on your team’s roster? When the games matter, who do you trust to stay eligible, keep his head in the game, and make big plays?

Say what?

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