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It's like there's four different versions of the story right now, including Darby and Jameis. Could get worse or it could become even more convoluted. There have been some rumblings that Winston and his attorney got the NFL to reduce the standard sexual assault suspension from 6 to 3 games and part of the deal was that Winston wouldn't bring forth a further appeal.

This whole story just reeks in a lot of ways.

So the third guy in the car was Brandon Banks. Currently in jail. For rape. Can't make this up.

Same position as before. Losing season in 2018 means a new coach and front office and Winston is gone after 2019. If this team somehow had a winning year in 2018, then Licht and Koetter stick around and Winston gets a new deal. An incident that happened two and half years ago won't prevent a contract extension presuming he and the team are playing winning football. Problem for Jameis is the suspension tips the scales towards an 0-3 start in 2018. 6-10 or 7-9 and the Glazers gut the franchise again...Jameis included. Baby with the bath water.

We're not there yet. Work with a bunch of Jets' fans and several of my neighbors are Jets' fans. They're slightly optimistic now because of Darnold but that will change when they realize he's Mark Sanchez II.

It's all about the journey and not necessarily the destination. Enjoy the ride, buddy!

Really curious to hear what the NFL has to say. If Winston did what the driver accused him of, I'd be really surprised if he was only handed down a three game suspension. I think GSS alluded to it. Perhaps Winston wasn't the perpetrator, but is refusing to say what happened and/or offer up the name of the person that touched the driver. If that is what's happening, even more confused about Darby's role and whether or not he comes into a suspension of his own.

Slow and steady wins the race.

The timing of the incident likely comes into play. The allegations at Florida State were potentially more serious and damaging than this recent story, and the Bucs still took him #1 overall. Unless some terribly damaging facts come out of the NFL investigation, I would think the Bucs consider Winston's entire body of work over the past 3-4 years, and if they think that's more of an indication of who he is or who he'll be going forward, then they likely stand by him. Whether fans like the idea or not, teams are still motivated by one thing - winning games. If Winston plays well in 2018 and Koetter and Licht are retained, then he's getting a contract extension. If he plays poorly in '18 and there's an overhaul to the staff and front office, he's shown the door.

Lucky for you have the Buckeyes this football season - or at least until Urban has another 'heart problem'!

If the team doesn't do well in 2018, there's a new coach and GM in 2019 and Winston's playing for his career in Tampa. Suspension or not. If the team wins 9 or 10 games this year, however unlikely that is, then Koetter and Licht are back. And Winston likely gets a new deal with probably less guarantees and some type of morals clause. I don't necessarily think the suspension moves the needle on his future with the Bucs. Same as it's been. Don't get it done in 2018 and you've got one foot out the door. What the suspension does do is increase the likelihood of an 0-3 start and yet another losing season.

Yep. Really interested to see what they say and what they found out during the investigation and how that looks juxtaposed with what Darby and Winston were saying.

So is Darby suspended too? If he's in the car, and something happens and the NFL has proof that it happened, isn't there a duty to report? Or does it only apply if he's the perpetrator? If the NFL knows something happened and Darby was insisting it didn't, wouldn't that be the basis for a suspension?

The appeal or lack of will be interesting. If he is willing to miss out on a lot more money next season, then perhaps he is telling the truth. But if he cuts his losses, then maybe he's guilty as charged.

If the NFL actually communicates with the Bucs about what they know and what the facts are then I presume they will have a decision to make on Winston going forward. Whether or not that happens, who knows? In general this franchise has been snakebit since 2008. Nothing surprises me anymore. Oh and by they, I mean the Bucs. Could be the end of the line for Winston. And then Koetter and Licht.