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Is this the most undisciplined Bucs Team? McCoy thinks So


In post-game press conference, Gerald McCoy said: "Probably the worst I've ever been on as a collective"

“I usually know what to say. At this point, guys. I don’t know. I don’t know anymore. I don’t know. I know we’re going to keep going. I don’t have no answer. I really don’t I’m sorry.


“We gotta be more disciplined that that. Penalties can kill you. A lot of the points in the game we were at because of penalties. Very undisciplined team. Very undisciplined team. Probably the worst I’ve ever been on as a collective, as a unit.”




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AS a team leader; what exactly is Big Money McCoy doing about it; Besides talking about it every week. 

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Cantankeris
Nov 10 2014 03:31 AM

Dude jumped offsides 4 times on one series.

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THIS!!!^^^^^

 

That's about where I turned it off..

Or maybe when they allowed Atl to convert a 3rd and forever with a 5yd def holding call that came with an automatic first down

 

 I am DONE with this ignorant overpaid franchise..

 

Top to bottom.. This franchise is stuffed chock full Stupid, Ignorant Undisciplined people...

 

We've gone thru two other eras of PATHETIC in the past but there was a difference. Back then because of the young age of the franchise, they were still our loveable funny Bucs.. And we put up with it..

 

It aint loveable any more Lovie, It aint cute.. From ownership on down, it's simply pathetic.. 

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Gulf Shore Steve
Nov 10 2014 03:41 AM

Bucs had 4 offsides calls in the game. I think only one was McCoy. One was Bowers and one Gholston. I also think all were declined. So they had little impact on the game. Not that this is good just that it didn't have an impact.

So the overpaid asshat is still yapping........let's look at his stat line for today. Yeah, that's right he only had 1 tackle with no QB hurries and no sacks.......and an offsides called on him. Gas bag needs to turn his fucking finger around at himself, as he is part of the problem.

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Gulf Shore Steve
Nov 10 2014 04:04 AM

THIS!!!^^^^^

 

That's about where I turned it off..

Or maybe when they allowed Atl to convert a 3rd and forever with a 5yd def holding call that came with an automatic first down

 

 I am DONE with this ignorant overpaid franchise..

 

Top to bottom.. This franchise is stuffed chock full Stupid, Ignorant Undisciplined people...

 

We've gone thru two other eras of PATHETIC in the past but there was a difference. Back then because of the young age of the franchise, they were still our loveable funny Bucs.. And we put up with it..

 

It aint loveable any more Lovie, It aint cute.. From ownership on down, it's simply pathetic.. 

 

I think it was the PI in the endzone by Lenny that got ya Axe. I remember it from the chat.

 

I feel ya but ya keep sayin' it and you're still here.

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Gulf Shore Steve
Nov 10 2014 04:06 AM

So the overpaid asshat is still yapping........let's look at his stat line for today. Yeah, that's right he only had 1 tackle with no QB hurries and no sacks.......and an offsides called on him. Gas bag needs to turn his fucking finger around at himself, as he is part of the problem.

 

He approaches it as if he's the winner teaching the losers to win. He hasn't won since college....like a great deal of the other players. A bit less chatting would suffice for Gerald....particularly after an ineffective day.

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D-Buc'n-Corvin
Nov 10 2014 04:06 AM
If he was a QB the media heads would be eating him alive. They did it to RG3, and he didn't even say anything like that.

Yeah that's a pretty douchey blow from Gerldini.
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I have a hard time blaming Lenny for what I see far more from every Seahawk db on every pass play especially the multiple hand checking contact on every wide receiver for 40 yards on a pass route. For a style of bump and run coverage that is supposed to be prohibited as a point of emphasis by the refs, they certainly do not call enough penalties on the Seahawks secondary to get them to stop.
I don't understand the negative comments toward McCoy, his effort is 110%. What is he doing about it? I would guess after keeping his comments in house had no effect, now he is calling his team mates out. Would you rather he just shut up and talk about only being 3 games out or some other company line?
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Dunn_Deal28
Nov 10 2014 12:43 PM

I don't understand the negative comments toward McCoy, his effort is 110%. What is he doing about it? I would guess after keeping his comments in house had no effect, now he is calling his team mates out. Would you rather he just shut up and talk about only being 3 games out or some other company line?

 

I'd prefer for him to keep his mouth shut and show more on the stat sheet than one tackle.

 

The way he hits up the podium after games, you'd think he's JJ Watt. Then, you look at his tangible production, and you see a glorified Chris Hovan.

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Thank you. I'm tired of seeing "fans" complain about the best player on our team. It's a team. He can't do it all and it was in no way his fault we lost. I can understand the frustration of losing and wanting to take it out on someone but just because he is the highest paid doesn't mean it's his fault. I like McCoy. He kept it real at his presser. He's frustrated, and instead of giving y'all that same old crap about being 3 games out, and we are improving every week, he's said you know what we suck, and we are undisciplined. And to me that falls squarely on the head coach. Over everything I'm most disappointed with this season the number one thing has got to be the coaching.
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Dunn_Deal28
Nov 10 2014 12:49 PM

Thank you. I'm tired of seeing "fans" complain about the best player on our team. It's a team. He can't do it all and it was in no way his fault we lost. I can understand the frustration of losing and wanting to take it out on someone but just because he is the highest paid doesn't mean it's his fault. I like McCoy. He kept it real at his presser. He's frustrated, and instead of giving y'all that same old crap about being 3 games out, and we are improving every week, he's said you know what we suck, and we are undisciplined. And to me that falls squarely on the head coach. Over everything I'm most disappointed with this season the number one thing has got to be the coaching.

 

People need to understand the difference between blaming McCoy for losing, and calling him out for his running his mouth. Two entirely different things.

 

Is he the reason for the Bucs' being 1-8? No. I don't recall anyone saying that, myself included.

 

But, when a guy comes out and goes on about how he doesn't think his teammates are tired of losing - and then proceeds to put up one tackle - I can't help but find his usual post game comments to be tiring and empty.

 

If he simply shut up, and played, I don't he'd generate nearly as much criticism.

 

Case in point - Lavonte David. When has ever said anything about his teammates, or the state of the franchise? He's too busy playing at an all pro level. McCoy should try it.

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I have yet to hear McCoy crow about his game.

The crappy Tampa media thinks McCoy is the leader, so they go to him automatically after games. David is the best player on that bad defense, but you never read quotes from him. Why doesn't the media jump on his jock like they hang on McCoy's? Geraldini could just say, I am part of the problem, I didn't play well. He is saying what we are saying about being undisciplined, but then that's the coach's job to bench the player after a bonehead decision or play.

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Dunn_Deal28
Nov 10 2014 01:28 PM

I have yet to hear McCoy crow about his game.

 

Because there isn't anything to 'crow' about. He'd rather make vague reference to everyone else, and all of the corresponding problems.

Because there isn't anything to 'crow' about. He'd rather make vague reference to everyone else, and all of the corresponding problems.


My mistake, I forgot that Snook likes McCoy, so you don't.

If Lovie can't even ice the kicker "correctly" how can he expect his players to be any better at their jobs? I mean, the TO needs to be called prior to the snap so there is no practice kick that gives the kicker an advantage. The icing is supposed to be the extra time the kicker has to think about missing the kick. And that's usually only effective with the game on the line.

 

And if you look at the box score; McCown threw for over 300 yards, Bucs had 23 first downs the their 19, 70% 3rd conversions, More total yards, More time of possession, Average gain per play that matched them, Punting average that matched them, Rushing yards that matched them, Had a big 53 yard punt return.

 

The Bucs had 10 penalties and 3 turnovers though.

 

So, McCoy's comments about those penalties are relevant, if not unnecessary. But he's not paid to be an analyst. 

 

He's be wise to publicly address his efforts and keep the rest in the locker room. If that's not effective, it's still a locker room issue and I'd look forward to the rumors of the fist fights and beatdowns along with the requisite denial stories.

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Dunn_Deal28
Nov 10 2014 01:59 PM

My mistake, I forgot that Snook likes McCoy, so you don't.

 

Nah. Your mistake is that you're projecting snook's immature BS (i.e., Lavonte David went to Nebraska so he must suck) onto me. No worries though.

 

As for 'not liking' McCoy, you're right, I don't. Has nothing to do with snook or anyone else. I'm capable of forming the opinion on my own. Everyone's different, right? I prefer players to focus more on their on-field production than they are on preparing one liners after another week of piss poor play.

 

And this notion that McCoy's role as team spokesman is perfectly fine, that too is something I don't agree with. As I said in another thread, the guy's been the lynch pin on some of the worst defenses in team history - and in some cases, league history. No one in the Bucs' lockerroom is following this guy. Maybe he'll bribe them with ice cream, so there's that.

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Dunn_Deal28
Nov 10 2014 02:03 PM

 

If Lovie can't even ice the kicker "correctly" how can he expect his players to be any better at their jobs? I mean, the TO needs to be called prior to the snap so there is no practice kick that gives the kicker an advantage. The icing is supposed to be the extra time the kicker has to think about missing the kick. And that's usually only effective with the game on the line.

 

And if you look at the box score; McCown threw for over 300 yards, Bucs had 23 first downs the their 19, 70% 3rd conversions, More total yards, More time of possession, Average gain per play that matched them, Punting average that matched them, Rushing yards that matched them, Had a big 53 yard punt return.

 

The Bucs had 10 penalties and 3 turnovers though.

 

So, McCoy's comments about those penalties are relevant, if not unnecessary. But he's not paid to be an analyst. 

 

He's be wise to publicly address his efforts and keep the rest in the locker room. If that's not effective, it's still a locker room issue and I'd look forward to the rumors of the fist fights and beatdowns along with the requisite denial stories.

 

 

Yes. All the sound bytes from Geraldini and don't recall too many that focus on what he did, or what he needs to do. Want to take issue with your teammates? Fine. Do it to their face, behind closed doors. To do so would require something he may not have...

Sure, the DT that every NFL analyst states is one of the premier DT's in the league, if not the premier DT. Sure, it's your opinion, of course your opinion makes it pretty clear that when it comes to the NFL, you really don't have a clue.

I wish McCoy would have said that Keonen needs to be cut before he gets out of the stadium.  ;)

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No sacks or TO against one of the worst o lines in the league, enough said.

I wish McCoy would have said that Keonen needs to be cut before he gets out of the stadium.  ;)

There's a quote from McCoy that I could get behind....

I watched the Fox Sports wrap up show yesterday - after all but the Sunday Night game had been played.

 

Like him or not, Howie Long was a pretty accomplished player in this league and a Hall of Famer.

 

In the "Last Word" segment which will be about a player or a team event that was telling in the days games, Long made this statement:

 

"There are a handful of players in this league, so relentless, so singlemindedly focused they reach a level of intensity where the opponents are saying 'Mommy make it stop!' One of those players is Detroit Lions Defensive Tackle Ndomakong Suh who nearly single handedly beat the Miami Dolphins into submission. He is the kind of player who tells you he is going to go right through you - not around you, he's not going to trick you, he's just going to go right through you and he dares you to try and stop him."

 

While it is convenient to say the McCoy/Suh war drives this observation - I wish Gerald McCoy had more of THAT in his character instead of throwing darts at his team mates behind the media. Want to inspire greatness? Shut up and be great and stop talking about what the news media - and particularly Warren Sapp says about you.

 

Booger McFarland arrived here and basically became Sapp's valet. There was so much imitation  of Sapp players openly referred to him as "Sapp Jr." They drove the same car make, wore the same watch, dressed similarly and Booger started to talk like Sapp. Gerald McCoy so badly wants to be compared to Warren Sapp he doesn't know who Gerald McCoy is.

 

I don't think Suh is having any of those problems. His stat line against a Miami team considerably tougher than the Falcons was one sack, three QB hits, four tackles and three of them for a loss.

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