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ESPN & Benjamin Allbright: Bucs & Winston have reached a deal


Sources say that the Tampa Bay Bucs have reached a deal in principle with Jameis Winston for the #1 pick in the NFL Draft

https://twitter.com/...551387095347200

Jameis Winston WILL be the #Bucs pick, per source. It's a done deal. Did what they consider due diligence to be sure.


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The stupidity of not taking this to the last second in order to solicit offers cannot be measured.

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I was thinking about the 1999 draft today. The Saints let it be known through Ditka they would give up their entire draft for Ricky Williams plus a first and third in the year 2000. Yet the first 4 teams that were picking in the draft turned that deal down.

 

1. Cleveland picked Tim Couch. Couch was not only a bust but he was not as good as journeyman Kelly Holcomb.

2. The Eagles picked Donovan McNabb. Can you say for certain that 8 picks including two first and third rounders might not have been better.  You still can not fault Reid.

3. Akilli Smith- Nuff said.

4. Edgerrin James- The closest guy to Marshall Faulk in that draft. Great player but the draft haul from the Saints still might have made the Colts better.

 

5. Washington is the team that made the haul. Sent two picks to Minnesota (!st and 3rd to get Brad Johnson). Yet with all the great players, they got, they had one division title to show for it and were in a major rebuilding mode in 2001 with Tony Banks as their starting QB. Marty's one year rebuild in 2001 is cancelled by Snyder who hires Spurrier. Disaster ensues.

 

Still is there any draft pick worth more than 8 draft picks including 4 first and third rounders?

No word on ESPN or the internet about this deal. I may have to call bullshit. Sports Center is not even talking about it.

The stupidity of not taking this to the last second in order to solicit offers cannot be measured.


I don't understand that either. Even if they've settled on Winston, it makes sense to see what you might get for the pick.
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I do not doubt it will happen, but I don't believe it has happened yet.
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Ramsforever
Apr 10 2015 11:44 PM

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https://twitter.com/allbrightnfl

 

A very strong smell.

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Ramsforever
Apr 11 2015 12:05 AM

The stupidity of not taking this to the last second in order to solicit offers cannot be measured.

 

Or worse yet, believing everything you read.

 

Frank, I expect better from you.  :facepalm

Make it happen bucs!!!!
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The Rich McKay Conspiracy
Apr 11 2015 12:33 AM

If this were true Joebucsfan would have crashed by now.

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Bucaroo Bonzai
Apr 11 2015 12:40 AM

Well, the problem was in what the Redskins did with the picks.  Snyder got rid of a good QB and a decent coach and the team hasn't been the same since.

If a contract was signed, it might also be that the Bucs didn't receive any good offers, so there was no need to drag it out.  I mean, the Bucs have the first pick and he's the best player in the draft, so they need to pick him up, but nobody is going to trade the farm to pick up that kind of baggage/risk.

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Ramsforever
Apr 11 2015 12:50 AM

If a contract was signed, it might also be that the Bucs didn't receive any good offers, so there was no need to drag it out.

 

 

Wouldn't it be all over the internet?

 

I got a new avatar for Servo .....

 

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Gulf Shore Steve
Apr 11 2015 01:04 AM

Allbright tweeted this this morning (Winston was the pick) after yesterday saying that MM was in the picture. He later specifically said the pick was not an absolute and there still was potential for something to gum things up.

 

So, at this point, I think someone may be misinterpreting a guy without a great reputation for sources.

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Gulf Shore Steve
Apr 11 2015 01:05 AM

I checked servo's tweet link. That's the same tweet from this morning.

 

Nothing to see here.

No word on ESPN or the internet about this deal. I may have to call bullshit. Sports Center is not even talking about it.

 

April is "Look at me!!!" month

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Allbright tweeted this this morning (Winston was the pick) after yesterday saying that MM was in the picture. He later specifically said the pick was not an absolute and there still was potential for something to gum things up.

 

So, at this point, I think someone may be misinterpreting a guy without a great reputation for sources.

 

From my limited tweetering, he's a fucking big mouth who likes to expound upon how smart he is and how stupid anyone who disagrees with him is.  

 

He'd fit in well around here.  

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Gulf Shore Steve
Apr 11 2015 02:06 AM

From my limited tweetering, he's a fucking big mouth who likes to expound upon how smart he is and how stupid anyone who disagrees with him is.  

 

He'd fit in well around here.  

 

That was my take. PR called him on his sources and he backed down this morning.

I read his twitter and somone said "You'll won't get credited with this"

 

He responded "Don't want it or need it"

 

I so wanted to put in there "Yes you do need it" but the only twitter account I have is one for a client which is only used for putting out information.

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Cantankeris
Apr 11 2015 02:50 AM
That's the problem with bloggers. They want followers so badly they go out of their way to time the market so they are the first to break it when something actually does happen.

That's the problem with bloggers. They want followers so badly they go out of their way to time the market so they are the first to break it when something actually does happen.

 

 

Kinda like every news outlet on the planet eh? :winkwink

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Cantankeris
Apr 11 2015 04:23 AM
Has it come to that?

The fact that we have whole networks that may be considered niche screams YES!

I was thinking about the 1999 draft today. The Saints let it be known through Ditka they would give up their entire draft for Ricky Williams plus a first and third in the year 2000. Yet the first 4 teams that were picking in the draft turned that deal down.

 

1. Cleveland picked Tim Couch. Couch was not only a bust but he was not as good as journeyman Kelly Holcomb.

2. The Eagles picked Donovan McNabb. Can you say for certain that 8 picks including two first and third rounders might not have been better.  You still can not fault Reid.

3. Akilli Smith- Nuff said.

4. Edgerrin James- The closest guy to Marshall Faulk in that draft. Great player but the draft haul from the Saints still might have made the Colts better.

 

5. Washington is the team that made the haul. Sent two picks to Minnesota (!st and 3rd to get Brad Johnson). Yet with all the great players, they got, they had one division title to show for it and were in a major rebuilding mode in 2001 with Tony Banks as their starting QB. Marty's one year rebuild in 2001 is cancelled by Snyder who hires Spurrier. Disaster ensues.

 

Still is there any draft pick worth more than 8 draft picks including 4 first and third rounders?

 

 

If someone offered their entire draft for our #1 pick, I would take it. How anyone passed on Ditka's offer is beyond me.

 

While Couch and Akili Smith are slam dunks as giant mistakes, Looking back on it, what might Philadelphia have done with eight additional picks that would replace Donovan McNabb? McNabb was drafted to be the franchise quarterback and he pretty much stepped in quickly and led that team for a decade. No, they didn't win a Super Bowl and I do think he was capable of quarterbacking a Super Bowl team. No, he's not Trent Dilfer, but then again, who is? But with some help he could have taken Philly to the Super Bowl. 

 

While James was a dynamic and super productive player at Indy, they could have done more with the picks.

No, he's not Trent Dilfer, but then again, who is? 

 

I did mis-state one fact. While the Saints offered their entire draft from 1999, the two extra picks in 2000 was an extra bounty to replace the picks they were giving up for Brad Johnson. Despite what most people would believe is one sided deal in their favor, Washington had the nerve to ask for more and Ditka paid it! BTW, Brad Johnson did throw for 4,000 yards that year and Washington was the second or third best offense in the NFL that year.

 

 

If someone offered their entire draft for our #1 pick, I would take it. How anyone passed on Ditka's offer is beyond me.

 

While Couch and Akili Smith are slam dunks as giant mistakes, Looking back on it, what might Philadelphia have done with eight additional picks that would replace Donovan McNabb? McNabb was drafted to be the franchise quarterback and he pretty much stepped in quickly and led that team for a decade. No, they didn't win a Super Bowl and I do think he was capable of quarterbacking a Super Bowl team. No, he's not Trent Dilfer, but then again, who is? But with some help he could have taken Philly to the Super Bowl. 

 

While James was a dynamic and super productive player at Indy, they could have done more with the picks.

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Gulf Shore Steve
Apr 11 2015 03:01 PM

If someone offered their entire draft for our #1 pick, I would take it. How anyone passed on Ditka's offer is beyond me.

 

While Couch and Akili Smith are slam dunks as giant mistakes, Looking back on it, what might Philadelphia have done with eight additional picks that would replace Donovan McNabb? McNabb was drafted to be the franchise quarterback and he pretty much stepped in quickly and led that team for a decade. No, they didn't win a Super Bowl and I do think he was capable of quarterbacking a Super Bowl team. No, he's not Trent Dilfer, but then again, who is? But with some help he could have taken Philly to the Super Bowl. 

 

While James was a dynamic and super productive player at Indy, they could have done more with the picks.

 

McNabb did take the Eagles to a Super Bowl. If the Bucs get a McNabb career out of a QB and we'd be guaranteed it, I'd be celebrating already.

 

With that said, I think the Bucs would have to take the Saints offer in today's world.